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Daniel and the boys and Jerusalem - Event Date: 22 Jul 2010

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I find it strange that Daniel makes no reference to God's people back in Jerusalem or any of the historical events that occurred during his years in captivity.God's focus seems directed more towards the Babylonian king and his potential as a believer than to an unbelieving church. Jeremiah makes no mention of Daniel and Ezekiel only mentions him in passing (Ez.28:3).In Jehoiakim's 3rd year Daniel and the others are taken to Babylon in fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophesies of the previous years (Jer.22:11-30 25-27:11), and contrary to what all the false prophets were posting.Sometime within the next year Jeremiah issues his prediction that if the people didn't straighten up God would send all of them down the road. He integrates this with a promise that God would only keep Israel in Babylon for 70 years and that Babylon would also be punished.
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Yes, it seems that there is a lot missing....  
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Perhaps the reason for that Doug is that the events that occurred in Babylon were more relevant to God's people as well as to the nations that what happened in Jerusalem The prophecies were given during Daniel's residence in Babylon. Likewise, the things that happen in the world take place while WE are living in what we call SPIRITUAL Babylon. I think that God's Church WAS in Babylon during the captivity and that is where God's attention was focused. Those who were left in Jerusalem eventually went into Egypt. Jerusalem was basically desolate and, until the captivity was turned, its history was not relevant to us.

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Originally posted by Doug Yowell

I find it strange that Daniel makes no reference to God's people back in Jerusalem or any of the historical events that occurred during his years in captivity.God's focus seems directed more towards the Babylonian king and his potential as a believer than to an unbelieving church. Jeremiah makes no mention of Daniel and Ezekiel only mentions him in passing (Ez.28:3).In Jehoiakim's 3rd year Daniel and the others are taken to Babylon in fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophesies of the previous years (Jer.22:11-30 25-27:11), and contrary to what all the false prophets were posting.Sometime within the next year Jeremiah issues his prediction that if the people didn't straighten up God would send all of them down the road. He integrates this with a promise that God would only keep Israel in Babylon for 70 years and that Babylon would also be punished.
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That is what I think, too, Robert.
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Originally posted by RobertParker

Perhaps the reason for that Doug is that the events that occurred in Babylon were more relevant to God's people as well as to the nations that what happened in Jerusalem The prophecies were given during Daniel's residence in Babylon. Likewise, the things that happen in the world take place while WE are living in what we call SPIRITUAL Babylon. I think that God's Church WAS in Babylon during the captivity and that is where God's attention was focused. Those who were left in Jerusalem eventually went into Egypt. Jerusalem was basically desolate and, until the captivity was turned, its history was not relevant to us.

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I'm not sure I follow that. It should be very obvious that what was happening in Jerusalem was also very important. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, IIKings,IIChron.all heavily focus on the circumstances back in Jerusalem while almost completely ignoring life in Babylon. Even a casual reading of those accounts show that God was  trying to get His people to repent and avoid the coming destruction.Jeremiah wasn't the only one speaking for God during this time.Even after the last small group of the remnant was left, there was God providing guidance for their future.God's in the repentence business just as actively as He is in the prophetic business.
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Yes, that's very true, Doug.
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I think you are misunderstanding what I am  saying Doug. Those prophets you mention were warning Jerusalem of what was in STORE for them if they did not repent. Jerusalem would be destroyed.

I understood your original question was as to why not much is said about what was going on in Jerusalem AFTER the majority of God's people were in captivity to Babylon. This occurred at the final siege by Nebuchadnezzar' armies. After this, Jerusalem lay in waste and was relatively of no concern to us. It is only after the RETURN of the Jews that our focus is again drawn to the Holy City.

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Originally posted by RobertParker

Perhaps the reason for that Doug is that the events that occurred in Babylon were more relevant to God's people as well as to the nations that what happened in Jerusalem The prophecies were given during Daniel's residence in Babylon. Likewise, the things that happen in the world take place while WE are living in what we call SPIRITUAL Babylon. I think that God's Church WAS in Babylon during the captivity and that is where God's attention was focused. Those who were left in Jerusalem eventually went into Egypt. Jerusalem was basically desolate and, until the captivity was turned, its history was not relevant to us. As I said. the remnant who were not taken to Babylon, went down into Egypt.

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I'm not sure I follow that. It should be very obvious that what was happening in Jerusalem was also very important. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, IIKings,IIChron.all heavily focus on the circumstances back in Jerusalem while almost completely ignoring life in Babylon. Even a casual reading of those accounts show that God was  trying to get His people to repent and avoid the coming destruction.Jeremiah wasn't the only one speaking for God during this time.Even after the last small group of the remnant was left, there was God providing guidance for their future.God's in the repentence business just as actively as He is in the prophetic business.
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Originally posted by RobertParker



I think you are misunderstanding what I am  saying Doug. Those prophets you mention were warning Jerusalem of what was in STORE for them if they did not repent. Jerusalem would be destroyed.

I understood your original question was as to why not much is said about what was going on in Jerusalem AFTER the majority of God's people were in captivity to Babylon. This occurred at the final siege by Nebuchadnezzar' armies. After this, Jerusalem lay in waste and was relatively of no concern to us. It is only after the RETURN of the Jews that our focus is again drawn to the Holy City.

OK, I get it, sorry.I agree . But what I was referring to was the silence of Daniel regarding what was going on in Jerusalem (and Babylon) BEFORE Nebuchadnezzar's final solution. 
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